Fat Joe Breaks Down the Independent Route

Posted on: January 14, 2008 6 comments so far (is that a lot?)

Fat Joe Ringtone

I rarely hear rappers talk about how they acquired their rap riches (let me finish), specifically relating to how much do they get per album sold. We always hear rappers talk about how much crack they sold or how much they are currently selling, which is all lies and exaggerations. That’s why I find it so interesting when Fat Joe (of all people) breaking down the financial aspect of selling records like we’ve never heard before.

We all know that going independent is the better route in terms of points per album [sidebar: remember Jim Jones claiming he got $7 per album], but the drawback has always been your marketing budget is not going to be as big as on a major. Therefore, this could mean less album sales but more money per album sold. Now Joey Crack has been on a tear as of late after destroying Rap City’s booth, he continues this streak when he was asked if he would ever go on to a major label again. Here’s his response,

“Never, no way, are you kidding me?! You want me to go back to slavery? Are you nuts? It’s a long story short man; I sold two million records on a major label and turned around twice, not once, twice and never seen a royalty in my life. There’s n****s that sell four million and don’t see a royalty. It’s funny math when you f**k with the majors. It’s real funny math. They give you 18 points [but] every dollar they ever spent—marketing, whatever or their event—comes out of your 18 points. What happens to the 82 points?! So then the artists turns around he sells a million records, they made six and a half million dollars off of him. And he’s lucky if they give him a half a million as an advance towards his new album, which is really half a million off the six and a half million they just made off the n***a. Please!” Source

If your lost, let me explain. Most rappers with major label deals get about .18 cents per every dollar made of their album. Now even though albums sell for $9.99 to $19.99 that doesn’t mean the artist gets 18% of that, because the retailer will usually eat up 50% of those costs. So the record label and artist take home about $5 to $10. This means the artist gets between $.90 cents and $1.80 per album.

Now the messed up part is that Joey is claiming that the label uses an artist’s points toward their marketing budget. This would mean the more you spend on your album the less you ultimately make. Consider this, the albums that sell the most, usually have budgets of over a million dollars, if you even go platinum, then you are just going to break even. In order to really cake up of album sales, you have to at least go five times platinum! Only the really great artist are doing those numbers, so its no wonder the game has produced so many ringtone rappers in the last year, because the label can recoup costs of selling the ringtone alone.

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6 Responses to “Fat Joe Breaks Down the Independent Route”

  1. dathrowed1 Says:

    I have heard things like this, like when Gillie said Lil Wayne doesn’t receive publishing checks. Like how most cash money artists weren’t making money except Baby and his brother Slim

  2. YoRapper Says:

    Yeah well I know Birdman and Slim got one of the best record deals ever (courtesy of Wendy Williams). Apparently, they got something like 75% of each dollar, which is insane. My guess on Birdman not paying Lil Wayne would probably be for tax reasons, he probably does give him money and cars and ice as “gifts” or something. They kiss on the lips for godsakes.

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  4. GREUM$$TATUS Says:

    joey crack is high !
    hhighh! da fat gangsta
    you got the flow joe !
    don cartagena from nyc in direct live from MIyAYo!
    elephant in the room comin soon
    holhhaaaa

  5. Ummm Says:

    @YoRapper:

    “Yeah well I know Birdman and Slim got one of the best record deals ever (courtesy of Wendy Williams). Apparently, they got something like 75% of each dollar, which is insane.”

    Wendy Day is the name. Only correcting here because she truly deserves the credit.

    And it is an 80/20 split + they own their masters.

  6. YoRapper Says:

    Yeah my bad, Wendy Day, the big white women right? How could I confuse her with Wendy Williams, the big tity tranny looking gossip queen.

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